On this episode of Wholehearted Voice Pedagogy, I have the great pleasure of speaking to Dr. Nicholas Perna, who is Associate Professor and Director of Vocal Pedagogy at the University of Colorado Boulder, where he directs the Berton Coffin Voice Lab. Together, we dive into the murky topic of ethics. Nick generously shares his personal experiences and offers some potent moments of reflection for all teachers: secondary, post-secondary, or independent.